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02 February 2010 @ 11:03 pm
LOST: Season 6, Episode 1/2  
And we're off and running! Intriguing stuff, all behind the cut.

So looks like my "multiple timeline" theory is going to be correct. We're seeing the timeline where the plane doesn't crash. Because the island was blown up, and is at the bottom of the ocean. Jack still should have remembered Desmond though.

Now we're in another timeline with Kate in a tree, partially deaf. But where? And when? Miles is there. And the blown up Swan hatch. And Jack. And ticked-off Sawyer.

In No Plane Crash, it's Sawyer and Doc Arzt and Hurley.

Hey, Jacob! This is either "Hurley sees dead people" or the explosion somehow has brought Jacob back. Or they're at a point in time before Ben kills Jacob.

Unhappy Locke! Boone! Unhappy Sun! Hey look, between them, it's Frogurt! And no Shannon, with an explanation.

Hm. Where did Jacob go after he was in the fire? Was there a body there?

So we have three things going right now: Timeline where plane didn't crash; continuation of timeline where Ben killed Jacob; and the third timeline where Jack/Kate/Sayid/Hurley/Sawyer/Miles are (with Jacob). I'm betting the last two are the same.

Jacob says "I died an hour ago" and I AM RIGHT! They are in 2007! And Jacob is, perhaps, putting his plan into action?

Juliet being alive was a bit of a surprise.

The use of the black ash to "limit" the smoke monster, the same black ash that was aroun the cabin, implies that Man in Black and smoke monster are aspects of each other. I'd wondered about that.

Wonder if Charlie's "I was supposed to die" means anything. And where did Desmond go? And they're landing in LA and *nobody* is happy. *Nobody*. At all. Well, maybe Sayid.

Still haven't seen (on the plane): Claire, Libby. Mr. Eko.

Maybe we'll find out what's in the guitar case? Surely we will!

The absence of Christian Shepherd's coffin might just be the first clue to Jack that something is wrong.

Hm. Who the heck are those people? This just got weird. These are people we've never seen before, who (I guess) are somehow earlier inhabitants of the island who now live at the temple. Perhaps they're one of the earlier groups that Jacob "brought" to the island? How do they relate to Richard and the recent others? Perhaps we'll find that out.

I was waiting for Kate to make a run for it. And she does!

Is that the same old list from when Ben said "Jacob had a list"? Maybe not, maybe it was indeed a message from Jacob with the instructions on it.

I'm betting these are the "backwards-talking" others, the True Others, who ended up with the kids and kidnap people like Cindy the Stewardess. And these are the magical healing waters which Ben was dropped into, which likely also account for Richard's immortality. I bet these people relate to the Black Rock ship somehow.

Seems like the people Jacob referred to when he said "They're coming" are these people. And they are scared of the Smokey aka Man in Black.

And where the heck is "home" for the Fake-Locke aka Man in Black? Who knows?

I'm sure Sayid is totally going to come back at some point.

The LOSTies are still connecting - Kate with Claire, Locke with Jack.

Richard in chains - I'm betting Richard was a slave on the Black Rock ship.

No surprise there - Sayid's alive!

Hmmm .. lots being set up here. Lots to think about. Must sleep on it. More thoughts tomorrow.
marshaldillonmarshaldillon on February 3rd, 2010 02:04 pm (UTC)
FWIW, I think Jacob is now in Sayid. Maybe.
jeffsoesbe: lost lockejeffsoesbe on February 3rd, 2010 06:17 pm (UTC)
Intriguing thought, but I'm leaning away from that. I think that Sayid being revived using the pool is similar to what probably happened when Ben was saved. So it's still Sayid.

However, I wouldn't be surprised if what you said is the case. We still don't know how ManInBlack created a Locke-body, unless of course he is able to be any dead person he wants. Which implies he could have been *all* the dead people seen on the island. That's something others had wondered about: smokey and the "ghosts" being linked.
Dave Thompson: Not Penny's Boatkrylyr on February 3rd, 2010 05:26 pm (UTC)
I think Jacob's "They're Coming" refers to Sayid, Hurley, Jack, Kate, Miles, and Sawyer.

And this alternate timeline...doesn't quite make sense. I mean, a lot of the differences we're seeing seem to have taken place pre-plane crash. Shannon's absence, Locke's walkabout/bolstered confidence (while in wheelchair), Desmond - hell - I'm not even sure whether he was actually there or not, and Hurley being the luckiest man alive. I have no idea what any of that means, but I'm intrigued!
jeffsoesbe: lost lockejeffsoesbe on February 3rd, 2010 06:23 pm (UTC)
That was my other thought was "they" referred to the people who were back in the time. I wonder if perhaps Jacob's death was the "anchor" that pulled them back to his time after the bomb blew. It could relate to his touching them earlier in their lives. Perhaps Jacob does a lot of this "visiting people and touching them" as a means to gain forces. ManInBlack did imply that Jacob "brought" the people on the sailing ship to the island.

Here's my theory on the things you mentioned in Timeline NoCrash:

- The statement about Shannon was a cover for the fact they couldn't get the actress back. Bummer they had to do that, but oh well.

- Locke was lying to Boone, as a way of saving face.

- Hurley was making a joke. But I don't remember if he did indeed buy Mister Cluck's in the PlaneCrashTimeline.

- I don't know what the heck is up with Desmond appearing and disappearing. In NoCrashTimeline we've seen the island is at the bottom of the ocean. So there's was no island for Desmond to land on during his around the world sail. Perhaps he didn't complete it, but got rescued. He and Jack did indeed meet before Oceanic 815 (I think), at the football stadium when they were running. So Jack's memory should have been triggered. Why Desmond was on the flight was a mystery to me, though...
Dave Thompson: Not Penny's Boatkrylyr on February 3rd, 2010 06:56 pm (UTC)
Hrm. I dunno. The differences seemed very important to me.

Sure, the statement about Shannon was a cover but I think there was intentionality behind it as well. I don't think it was a shrug-off.

Locke could've been lying to Boone. But I'm not sure I buy it.

And I definitely don't think Hurley was kidding. Mr. Cluck's seems incredibly successful in this alternate timeline. And Hurley seems to be taking it all in stride. (I believe he did buy Mr. Cluck's in the original timeline. Then a meteorite crashed into it.)

Desmond, of course, is the biggest WTF? But also other subtle things like Jack's cut, the submerged island, etc.

I'm curious to see how others like Faraday, Miles, Juliet, and Ben play in this alternate timeline...
jeffsoesbe: lost lockejeffsoesbe on February 3rd, 2010 07:19 pm (UTC)
I agree that the differences are important. The submerged island is a BIG difference :-)

But you're right that the little ones, because they get attention, are crucial. I'd forgotten about Jack's cut, and good point on Mister Cluck's. Which is why the "recap" shows featured the meteor hitting the restaurant.

I'd like to think they aren't making *too* many changes. If they did that, then I think that undermines the point of showing us what would have happened if the plane hadn't crashed. Cause I think that's the point of the alternate timeline, to show that everyone would be really really miserable.

I also think that the little differences might lead to some sort of connection between the timelines and awareness by someone of what has happened. But I might just be getting crazy on that one...